{"id":10379,"date":"2020-12-08T21:46:55","date_gmt":"2020-12-08T21:46:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/?p=10379"},"modified":"2023-03-15T16:46:58","modified_gmt":"2023-03-15T16:46:58","slug":"arguing-with-jesus-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/?p=10379","title":{"rendered":"Arguing With Jesus\u2014#2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 0<\/p><p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">[<strong>Note: \u00a0<\/strong>This MS is available in<strong> \u00a0<\/strong>larger font on our <strong>Brief Articles 1<\/strong> \u00a0page.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">As strange as it seems, some who profess belief in Jesus Christ \u201cargue\u201d with Him by their doctrines. Their doctrines also contradict the Lord\u2019s apostles and other inspired men (which equals arguing with Jesus, since He supplied their words). Further, those whose doctrines disagree with Jesus and the inspired writers also place Him and them at variance with one another\u2014and even with themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">Biblical inspiration implies that its writers speak from One Source and that their words do not (yea, cannot) contradict one another. Thus any interpretation of Scripture that creates a clash with other passages cannot be correct. Correct interpretation and application always produce harmony\u2014never conflict\u2014between Biblical statements.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">Let us now apply the foregoing principles to a prevalent Protestant doctrine. John Calvin, the 16th century Reformer, included in his five-point doctrinal formula the doctrine of \u201cperseverance of the saints\u201d (variously called \u201ceternal security,\u201d \u201cunconditional security,\u201d \u201cthe impossibility of apostasy,\u201d and \u201conce saved, always saved\u201d). As these terms imply, the doctrine avers that one who is truly saved can never apostatize so as to be lost. Consider some passages to which perseverance adherents turn:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">\u201cVerily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life\u201d (John 5:24). Rather than an unconditional promise that one who is saved cannot be lost, this promise applies to those who keep on hearing and believing (the force of the Greek verbs). Far from being a \u201cblank check\u201d for misbehavior, Jesus clearly makes avoiding condemnation conditional.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">\u201c\u2026 And him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out\u2026that all of that which he hath given me I should lose nothing\u201d (John 6:37b; 39b). In verse 37 the Lord merely says that any who are lost will not be lost because He rejected them. In verse 39 Jesus states the Father\u2019s ideal will\u2014that none should be lost (2 Pet. 3:9). However, His permissive will allows disciples to turn back\u2014and be lost (2 Pet. 2:20\u201322).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">The perseverance doctrine rests on perverting a few passages, all the while ignoring scores of explicit warnings of apostasy and its eternal consequences. This error pits the Lord against Himself (e.g., Luke 8:4\u201315; 12:42\u201346; John 8:51; 15: 1\u20136; et al.) and against the other inspired writers (e.g., 1 Cor. 15:1\u20132; Jam. 5:19\u201320; Jude 19\u201321; 1 John 2:23\u201325).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\">[<strong>Note:<\/strong> I wrote this article for and it appeared in the <em>Denton Record-Chronicle, <\/em>Denton, TX, July 26, 2013.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\"><strong>Attribution:<\/strong> From <em>thescripturecache.com<\/em>; Dub McClish, owner and administrator.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 0[Note: \u00a0This MS is available in \u00a0larger font on our Brief Articles 1 \u00a0page.] As strange as it seems, some who profess belief in Jesus Christ \u201cargue\u201d with Him by their doctrines. Their doctrines also contradict the Lord\u2019s apostles and other inspired men (which&#8230;<\/p>\n<div class=\"easywp-readmore\"><a class=\"read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/?p=10379\">Continue Reading&#8230;<span class=\"easywp-sr-only\">  Arguing With Jesus\u2014#2<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,7,794],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10379","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-false-teachersdoctrine","category-inspiration","category-perseverance","wpcat-18-id","wpcat-7-id","wpcat-794-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10379","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10379"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10379\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22715,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10379\/revisions\/22715"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10379"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10379"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thescripturecache.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10379"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}